There is no need to worry about the quality of SYM scooters. They are as good as KYMCOs. SYM and KYMCO are fiercely competitive against each other in their domestic Taiwan market to be the market champ. To give you an idea, KYMCO and SYM constantly battle for the market share lead with Yamaha Taiwan usually taking the third place. Genuine’s Buddy and Rattler are good quality scooters. They are made by Taiwan’s PGO. PGO usually takes the fifth place in the Taiwan market.
Taiwan consumers are very demanding with small-displacement two wheelers. They want high quality reliable scooters with 4-valves per cylinder, fuel-injection, and engines that are warrantied for 5 year or more at prices of only 60 to 70% of the comparable scooter models sold here. The advantage of KYMCO is that it’s more established in the US. SYM is still building the dealer channels and parts supply chain. But SYM and Carter Bros will take care of that soon. Right now, to catch up with KYMCO, SYM is pricing their scooters a little more attractively than the comparable KYMCO models.
Anyways, both KYMCO and SYM make good scooters. Just make sure you buy from a good dealer who can support your scooter.
i would like to purchase a joymax 250,how much does this scooter cost,and a dealer in wpg. man or sask..i live in brandon man.
I had always fancied one of those imported scooters off ebay, but maybe i will think again now.
Thanks for the advice , I agree completely with the customer support. My uncle once bought a scooter that was very good in quality but he ordered it from another country , it was ok at first but once he started having problems he was unable to find a support outlet in our city so he had to wait for the replacement parts to be delivered.
Its a good idea that they compete against each other because it will push them to make their product better and better so we customers are benefiting from this^^.
Mark! Keep an eye on The Scooter Scoop. They’ll have an story soon about a 50cc 4-stroke that goes surprisingly fast… definitely faster than anyone can run.
Have a sym rv25 and love it. Found a great dealer in Athens, GA. (recyclescooters.com) Great selection and service.
FASTER AND EASIER , SCOOTER LICENSING IN WESTERN AUSTRALIA
With the rising cost of petrol , it is no better time than any, to buy an automatic scooter , the scooter and easy and fun to ride ,and most of all very cheap to run , it cost a little as $7.00 dollars to fill up the tank , and same time saving heaps of money , compared to driving a motor car . If you require a scooter bigger than 50cc , you will require a automatic motorbike licence . Scooters are fully automatic ,so there’s no worrying about changing gear whatsoever, and also the scooter is a very cost effective , way to own, maintain and service . To get an automatic motorbike license the are two types , RE-A requires to driver up to a 250cc automatic motorbike , R -A automatic motorbike license , open class license any over 250cc , the only requirement is you must have held the RE-A automatic licence for a least 12 months before you can apply for the R – A class licence with over 250cc automatic scooter .
You can ride a 50cc scooter on your car licence in Qld, NT, WA & SA. Then if you want to upgrade to something bigger you have to go for a automatic motorcyle licence.
I believe these states have not got it right.
The other states are just control freaks hell bent on legislating to protect us from ourselves.
Compare our mishmash with universal European licencing laws. In Europe if you have a car licence you can ride up to a 125cc scooter or bike. And look at the popularity of scooters there. Sure they have traffic problems but that is mostly because the cities were built before the invention of the car.
On reaching your 14th birthday in mose European countries you can ride a 50cc with NO licence
In Europe , they have a laws in place , where you can driver an 125cc automatic scooter on car license ,any bigger than a 125cc , where need to get a proper automatic motorcycle license , and for the 50cc scooter in Europe ,there no license needed to drive a 50cc scooter.
A 50cc scooter on car driver licence ,is simply too slow ,to simply to keep for the flow of today’s traffic speed laws, instead if they should change the law from driver a 50cc scooter to 125 cc automatic to be driven a normal car license .
The rising cost of petrol prices would be better time considering alternative form of transportation. These laws should be national .
Current licensing in Australia is a joke ! , we all know it and those in other state that ride “mopeds” know it too.
As the petrol rises at record high prices , the prime minister , should look other alternatives , in changing the licensing laws , to compensate ,for the record high petrol prices , and make it easier for people to look at other aternative form of tranportation ,such as automatic scooter ( bigger than a 50 cc ) , and too at other ways , to save money at the petrol bowser .
A 50cc scooter simply does not keep with flow of today’s traffic speed laws. We should change the traffic laws to make a fairer system for everyone , for todays modern society ,that we live in.
With the rising cost of housing ,petrol ,food prices , it a real drain on the normal household budget .
The automatic scooter is alot cheaper to run, service , compare to your average family car, in term of cost ,maintance ,and the higher fuel prices .
The state and federal governments ,should look at changes for automatic scooter restrictions , and invest time and money into how to improve the automatic scooter licensing laws , not just in one state of australia , but to make these laws licensing changes nationally.
The most important benefit is to the environment – riding a scooter can cut greenhouse gas emissions by up to two tonnes per annum (one tonne is a cube of gas 9.5 metres x 9.5 metres x 9.5 metres). There were more than 130,000 two-wheeled motor vehicles sold last year, which equates to more than 260,000 tonnes of greenhouse gas savings and reducing oil dependence of society.
Has the scooter rider , ever been rewarded for purchasing a product that uses less fuel and occupies fewer parking spots? Considering all the redevelopments in the city and the limited space for parking, it is very unfair. As a group we need to lobby for cheaper registration, parking and greenhouse gas emission rebates for purchasing two wheel products!
Mortgage stress is a major issue for people wanting to save money. Transport costs can be a huge drain on a household budget, so people are weighing up all their expenses.
The prime minister kevin Rudd , should make automatic scooter licenses easier to obtain , than make the automatic scooter license a costly and lengthy process . The prime minister should simplified the process and changes the engine capacity restrictions for automatic scooters . Cutting down transport costs ,can be a real benefit ,and at the same time, save money , make the licensing should be national , instead the licensing laws are different in every state of australia.
The prime minister Kevin Rudd , is doing nothing whatsoever , to help the average working family ,to combat the rising cost of living , and rising cost of petrol prices . The prime minister , should look other ways , to help to cost reduce the of transportation , to find other alternatives , to help the hard working australians and pensioners.
The Department of Planning and Infrastructure, Government of Western Australia , Should find easier ways to obtain a automatic scooter 250cc license , faster and easier , by scrapping the practial driving assessment , and introduce a new types of licensing, written tests , motorcyle theory test and the road rules theory test , once you passed the written theory tests, be able to get your bigger automatic scooter 250cc licence .
In Australia, you must have a motorcycle licence to drive a scooter larger than 50cc, but in several European countries and many states in the US a car licence .
In Queensland,Victoria, South Australia , compare to other capital cities of Australia , except for Western Australia ,they have training licensing courses in place, to obtain an automatic scooter license RE- A up to 250cc or R-A open class license above 250cc . Western australia is only capital city ,that have no training licensing courses , to obtain automatic scooter licenses ,like the other capital cities of australia . Western Australia is the only capital city in Australia , that is not keeping with the trend of automatic scooter licenses ,compare to the other capital cities . Western Australia , is so far behind the times of updating their automatic scooter licensing laws , compared to the other capital cities , who already have in place, training licensing courses to obtain RE-A or R- A 250cc licenses.
* The Department for Planning and Infrastructure , Government of Western australia , is not keeping up with automatic scooter licensing laws compared to other capital cities of australia .
Mark you are right! My friend has real trouble with his 50cc et2 Vespa. He finds people can run faster than his scooter..hehe
Does anyone know if they going to increase the power in the 50cc automatic scooters in the future ??? if so , they should increase to at least 7 kw engine , to keep up the flow of traffic ????